@CovertsadJW
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good afternoon , .
i have been having doubts for many years and as most jw's i have certainly not done myself a favor by suppressing all of my critical thinking.
i am married with 3 kids and my wife and i are inactive, but my wife has made it very clear in speech and action that she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids.
@CovertsadJW
I have read your PM to me but I canNOT send PM's.
good afternoon , .
i have been having doubts for many years and as most jw's i have certainly not done myself a favor by suppressing all of my critical thinking.
i am married with 3 kids and my wife and i are inactive, but my wife has made it very clear in speech and action that she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids.
@CovertsadJW
Can you trust me to send me a PM with your username in an email in it so I might talk with you? I will reply with my username from here.
I can read PM's but at this time cannot reply.
i believe that i have a good cause to sue the organization.
but i know that they have crafted themselves a legal loophole infinite loop.
so i was thinking that i should just sue the congregation that i know fucked me over.
Are you extraordinarily rich that you say you are not suing for money but pride? Going to Court takes all kinds of money before you finally see a Judge.
If you start with one Lawyer but don't think he will represent you correctly, you have to fire him and start with a new one. The new Lawyer needs time to get back up to speed with your case. That all takes time, energy and money. Do you have deep pockets because your pride was hurt, badly?
Are you wanting revenge? Most of us have been hurt but found our life is more precious to live without WT in it, so we turn our backs on these hurtful people and strive to live a good, long and stressfree life away from the Borg,
Want revenge? Stay healthy. Eat right. Go to the gym. Don't eat or drink your sorrow away. In a few years when you bump into any Jdubs you know... they will still be waiting for this impossible dream of WT/JW..org to come, which it never will. They can't help but look stressed out. You on the other hand, woke up and are in charge of your own life now.
Wouldn't you rather spend what little time each of us really has on this planet, doing something enjoyable even fun, than stressed out with a Court case?
What can you put your time, money and effort into that would make you happy? Today, next week, next year? What our your short term goals? Long term goals?
PS Someone did sue WT over a sex abuse problem, and won BUT they stated that they didn't do it for money, so even though they won, they were awarded no monetary benefits because they stated they wanted none... So, the Judge gave them none. They were out of pocket having to pay their own Lawyer and Court costs, themselves.
i was born january 15, 1947in mt.
carmel hospital, detroit, michigan.. within six months of my birth, my mother would bundle her baby boy into a blanket and board an american airlines propeller-driven plane--in effect, leaving my father behind--to return to her hometown, ft. worth, texas.. my dad had an excellent job working for cadillac as an inspector.
it was a union job.
Terry, Have you recently posted which jail and prison(s) you were sent to?
Has anyone made a collection of all the names of the young brothers sent to prison because of WT? If so, I am not aware of it.
This sweet young brother I know, the FBI came to his house after breakfast, handcuffed him, and put him in their car... all with neighbors watching. Did that make a good witness for WT? Not at all.
i was born january 15, 1947in mt.
carmel hospital, detroit, michigan.. within six months of my birth, my mother would bundle her baby boy into a blanket and board an american airlines propeller-driven plane--in effect, leaving my father behind--to return to her hometown, ft. worth, texas.. my dad had an excellent job working for cadillac as an inspector.
it was a union job.
Happy B day Terry! I still have a problem saying it.
@eyeuse2badub: I knew several who were imprisoned at Safford.
Can you PM me with a safe email address with your user name from here? I can read PM's but cannot answer them. Maybe we have met?
this week i visited my sick father in law.. then an old elder from my far away congregation came in for coffee.
did not see him in 15 years.. nice chat.
had a lot to say, is alone, his sick wife disabled and away from home.. he told me: "living alone is so hard.
@Moster
Can someone start a new thread possibly on "How Old is the Oldest JW that has Awaken, and how did it go"? or somesuch like that. Your dad is 88. Could waking him up now, cause his early demise? Will he cry so much and be so depressed that all together it will kill him? Then, of course, do not wake him up.
I was asked kindly, in a gentle voice from a dear soul who said they think I need to read CofC for free off of my computer and set it up for me. I had been an elder's wife for 40 years. I did not take this lightly but the person was so sincere in asking me to do this that I realized this was something I must do, if not for myself, then to help them where they have strayed. (Reading WT/JW..org highly unapproved literature).
After an all night marathon reading, I was out of WT/JW..org the next morning at 5AM.
It was like a veil had been lifted in my mind. The dysfunctional and crazy made up man made rules that never made sense, now did. The whole religion had been made up to serve the Top! To sell their brand of religious poppycock!
billy hork galleries, circa 1980, beverly hills, ca.the grandfather and his grandson poised outside the gallery window catching my eye-- i recognize paul henreid as the older gentleman in the beret, ascot, and dark glasses.instinctively i smile broadly.the grandson is possibly 10 years old.
he's dignified and moves with a rather impressive, posture--he enters the gallery speaking to me with a sort of etonion diction.
"my grandfather wishes to inquire about the object d'art in your window display.
Thanks... For the memories!
Loved him the most for the kind and sensitive man he portrayed in Now, Voyager.
Unforgetable in Casablanca too.
PS Soooo, was he allowed to use your privee?
PSS Do you think he used his grandson to give you the thought that he might be thinking that he was going to buy an expensive work of art so you would allow him to use the employees restroom, or by the way things played out, did he really just want to use the loo at that particular moment?
Inquiring minds are curious.
this week i visited my sick father in law.. then an old elder from my far away congregation came in for coffee.
did not see him in 15 years.. nice chat.
had a lot to say, is alone, his sick wife disabled and away from home.. he told me: "living alone is so hard.
If you were brought over in a slave ship from Africa where you were forced to leave all of your known surroundings, religion and loved ones, (support system) and were bought by a slave Master in America to work his plantation for his profit and financial growth and gain, never yours, how would you feel to find out now in your old age, that the Government had given you your freedom in the Civil War that ended back in 1865 and from henseforth, you could have been a freeman?
But your Master because he was so greedy, never allowed outsiders to come onto his land and you never knew until your life was almost over that your freedom was there for the taking. How do you feel?
It is so ridiculous that the Governing Body call themselves "The Slave". Question from Elders interrogating you: Do you Believe The Slave is the true and only Voice from God??? WE are the slaves! Not them! Pompous you know what's!
It is hard to come to the realization, that one has been duped, swindled ON PURPOSE!!! so the GB can live in one of their tax-free haven's, their cushy life supported off the sweat of others!
Shameful!!!
My heart goes out to everyone of us who has had their life stolen by these deceitful evil Slave Masters!!!
of course the religion condemns homosexuality but did you know any gay witnesses?
i knew some bethelites that were very effeminate and i remember 4 women who were suspected of being lesbians by many in the congregation.
they eventually moved away and were very vocal against males, especially elders..
The above was answering the question, how does someone fail Gilead school?
Back to the OP, asking do I know any gay Jdubs? Yes, of course. I don't know what has happened in the past 7 years but before that he was a MS given the privledge to be the door greeter and usher at his congo. He was an exquisite, pretty, beautiful, small man. He always dressed as richly and as fashionable as he could afford. Every detail on him and his clothes was impeccable.
Years before he had been married to a sister to "wash away the gay" but it did not work. She was beautiful in her own right. They divorced and he came out as a JW non practicing gay. The congo he later moved to (possibly getting reinstated but I don't recall right now if he was DF but possibly was for 2, 3 or 5 years and then came here) where I met him, was in a large city with a lot of tourists where he was appointed an MS. Everyone loved him and think well of him. He also spoke English well. The Elder that did the WT for years, never quite let go of his very strong German ascent and he was actually hard to understand at times.
of course the religion condemns homosexuality but did you know any gay witnesses?
i knew some bethelites that were very effeminate and i remember 4 women who were suspected of being lesbians by many in the congregation.
they eventually moved away and were very vocal against males, especially elders..
A number of decades ago, a couple were sent to Gilead and they did not graduate.
Why?
They had been told ahead of time, which 3rd world country they would be assigned to in Africa. The brother said, "I can't take that heat. May we have another assignment please, Brothers?".
The answer was "No!. You lied on your application. You said you were in excellent health and would serve (us) where ever we assigned you. You will go through the ceremony and be handed a diploma (it is like a small passport) but it will not be filled out".
He was sent back to his home country (a first world one) but was sent to it's far cold, and bleak region, as a special pioneer couple where icebergs float by in the summertime.